August 27, 2008

Did Any Sane Person Notice This?

[Body language expert and former FBI agent Joe Navarro] explained to Early Show co-anchor Maggie Rodriguez Wednesday, "We need non-verbal (cues) to tell us what is important, what is significant, and what should we be looking for."

And Clinton's non-verbals, he says, were revealing.

"What we wanted to see was a Churchillian speech, something that would move her candidate to cross that magic fence. And she delivered a speech, but the gestures -- the non-verbals that give us the emotion -- really weren't there."

Navarro later added, "I think her message was supposed to be, 'Hey, go with me and let's vote for Barack.' There should have been a lot more emotive displays, and we just simply did not see that."

And the intrepid body language reader also took a shot at reading Michelle Obama's mind. Was Michelle "a little bit uncomfortable during Clinton's speech?"


"It depends," Navarro replied, "on when you see her. I think a couple of times there when they were picturing her, perhaps she was thinking, 'This should be a little better' and so forth. (But) I think Michelle was very receptive. Her non-verbals actually were great at the beginning as she was, you know, you saw a lot of head tilt, which is indicative of 'I'm receptive,' and so forth."

Read the whole thing if you dare. It is from CBS News this morning. And people wonder why our political discourse is in the shape it is.

Via Washington Monthly's new Political Animal, Steve Benen

Update:

Mark Liberman of Language Log actually counted gestures as he watched a video clips of Clinton's speeches last night at the convention and on June 5th of this year. He even gives the numbers. He concludes as follows:

The study of gesture is complicated, and serious gestural transcription is difficult. I can't rule out the possibility that there might be ways to characterize and quantify the gestures in Senator Clinton's Denver speech that would support the conclusions in the CBS story, and I can't be sure that Mr. Navarro isn't basing his opinions on some (intuitive and informal) analysis of this kind.

My own intuitive and informal impression didn't agree — I thought that Senator Clinton gave a good performance, and presented every appearance of sincerity and enthusiasm, within the range of emotional states that she generally deploys. I freely admit that I might be wrong about this. Maybe there's a way to code her gestures and body language that would show that she really didn't mean it, or didn't mean us to believe that she meant it, or something like that. But I very much doubt that Joe Navarro has evidence that would convince me. More important, I'm pretty sure that Maggie Rodriguez doesn't actually care a bit one way or the other.

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I'm not saying I think this guy's interpretation is correct. But it sounds like you don't think we can't learn anything from non-verbal gestures during spoken discourse? I'm no full-scale behviorist, but I think the comportment of one's body can add a layer to speaking. I don't think it's mind reading to try to interpret those body movements. It may, rather, have to do with how comfortable one is in saying what one has to say. There are gestures that may hint at deception, irony, etc. Is that what the guy was doing?

Posted by: Alan Lenzi at August 27, 2008 1:26 PM

Alan,

I agree that body language does communicate. That's why face to face communications are so important. But, in real time did you see what Navarro saw? I sure didn't. And if you read his discussion of Michelle's speech, "She's a beautiful woman. You know, her hugs are genuine" it's hard not to think there is an anti-Clinton factor in the mix. I happen to agree with him about Michelle and not about Clinton, but that is irrelevant. What does an "expert" bring to this discussion that you or I don't bring if we are more sensitive than a watermelon.

By the way, there was much that I liked abut Clinton's speech. I thought it was one of her best. But I sure didn't like the fact that a speech like that was needed. I would have preferred a more sober discussion of issues. If the professional politicians can't bring us that, I'm still idealistic enough to think that the news media should. Which would be more important (or even interesting), this discussion of Clinton's body language or her claim that McCain is against equal pay for women. The basis of the claim is interesting, important and complex but someone's options on body language just aren't. Or perhaps better, they aren't important to me.

Posted by: Duane at August 27, 2008 1:48 PM

Now, I don't know what Duane's gestures when he wrote this, but I think I know where he's coming from here in regards to the irritating vacuousness of American politics. We get CNN and FoxNews up here in Canada unfortunately (but thank god for the CBC, eh).

Gesture interpretation is all fine and dandy but when it's used, as I suspect it is in this case, to drown out the important issues with primate minutia, then I think it's one's duty as an American citizen to be skeptical, object to this intellectual hijacking and force the topic back to focus.

For example, at what _point_ do these gestures occur in these speeches? What is being said concurrently with the gesture? I doubt any printed article no matter how thorough will go into such painful detail like that at the risk of nauseating the reader. And yet it's important to this topic if anything is to be learned from it at all. (And probably nothing at all can be learned from it anyway.)

If the American people think that their White House should be treasonously corrupted into a Reality TV Circus of melodrama, they'll get more than they bargained for. Sure, totalitarianism can be fun for some but personally I don't enjoy it much unless I'm the dictator.

Posted by: Glen Gordon at August 27, 2008 2:03 PM

My comment was rather abstract. I didn't read Navarro's interpretation and I didn't see the speech, either! Yesterday was the day before class. I think you're right, though, that politically speaking the analysis of body language shouldn't be a high priority. I'm sure Navarro was not completely unbiased in what he counted as evidence. . . .

Posted by: Alan Lenzi at August 27, 2008 5:49 PM

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